Discovering Your Secretly Secret Sensory Experiences

In his recent excellent blog post, Yvain discusses a few "universal" (commonplace) human experiences that many people never notice they don't have, such as the ability to smell, see some colors, see mental pictures, and feel emotions.  I was reminded of a longstanding argument I had with a friend.  She always insisted that she would rather be blind than deaf.  I could not understand how that was possible, since the visual world is so much richer and more interesting.  We later found out that I can see an order of magnitude more colors than she can, but have subpar ability to distinguish tones.  And I thought she was just being a contrarian for its own sake.  I thought the experience of that many colors was universal, and had rarely seen evidence that challenged that belief.  

More seriously, a good friend of mine did not realize he suffered from a serious genetic disorder that caused him extreme body pain and terrible headaches whenever he became tired or dehydrated for the first three decades of his life.  He thought everyone felt that way, but considered it whiny to talk about it.  He almost never mentioned it, and never realized what it was, until <bragging> I noticed how tense his expressions became when he got tired, asked him about it, then put it together with some other unusual physical experiences I knew he had </bragging>

This got me thinking about when it is likely we might be having unusual sensory experiences and not realize for long periods of time.  I am calling these "secretly secret experiences."  Here are the factors that might increase the likelihood of having a secretly secret experience. 

1) When they are rarely consciously mentally examined: experiences such as the ability to distinguish subtle differences in shades of color are tested occasionally (when choosing paint or ripe fruit), but few people besides interior decorators think about how good their shade-distinguishing skills are.  Others include that feeling of being in different moods or mental states, breathing, sensing commonly-sensed things (the look of roads or the sound of voices, etc.)  Most of the examples from the blog post fall under this category.  People might not notice that they over- or under-experience or differently experience such feelings, relative to others.  

2) When they are rarely discussed in everyday life: If my experience of pooping feels very different from other peoples' I may never know, because I don't discuss the experience in detail with anyone.  If people talked about their experiences, I would probably notice if mine didn't match up, but that's unlikely to happen.  The same might apply for other experiences that are taboo to discuss, such as masturbation, sex (in some cultures), anything considered gross or unhygienic, or socially awkward experiences (in some cultures).

3) When there is social pressure to experience something a certain way: it may be socially dangerous to admit you don't find members of the opposite sex attractive, or you didn't enjoy The Godfather or whatever.  Depending on your sensitivity to social pressure (see 4) and the strength of the pressure, this could lead to unawareness about true rare preferences.  

4) Sensitivity to external influences:  Some people pick up on social cues more easily than others.  Some notice social norms more readily, and some seem more or less willing to violate some norms (partly because of how well they perceive them, plus some other factors). I can imagine that a deeply autistic person might be influenced far less by mainstream descriptions of different experiences.  Exceptionally socially attuned people might (perhaps) take social influences to heart and be less able to distinguish their own from those they know about.  

5) When skills are redundant or you have good substitutes:  For example, if we live in a world with only fish and mammals, and all mammals are brown and warm and all fish are cold and silver, you might never notice that you can't feel temperature because you are still a perfectly good mammal and fish distinguisher.  In the real world, it's harder to find clear examples, but I can think of substitutes for color-sightedness such as shade and textural cues that increase the likelihood of a color-blind person not realizing zir blindness.  Similarly, empathy and social adeptness may increase someone's ability both to mask that ze is having a different experience than others, and the likelihood that ze will believe all others are good at hiding a different experience than the one they portray openly.

What else can people think of?

Special thanks to JT for his feedback and for letting me share his story.

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The huge problem is that we lack vocabulary to talk about unique qualia. Our words come from talking to other people and if nobody around us has the same qualia as we are, nobody gave us a word.

At the moment I'm learning to distinguish colors better via an Anki deck. I use the CSS color name definition. Seeing the difference between navy and midnightblue is still hard for me but I'm confident that I can learn it with practice. Some day I will hopefully even be able to tell apart snow from floralwhite.

I like the particular deck and if someone wants to train their color perception I'm happy to share it. It's build in a way that you get progressively more difficult decisions and provides years of fun at 5 new cards per day.

I would also like to create a deck to train sound perception. Does anyone know of a good tool that can automatically produce sound files with a specific pitch for pitch training? At best a tool that can be used via the command line.

Regarding color you might want to have a look at the as usual funny and detailed XKCD color survey: http://blog.xkcd.com/2010/05/03/color-survey-results/

Even better than that is this series of blog posts, which talks about color identification across languages, the way that color-space is in a sense "optimally" divided by basic color words, and how children develop a sense for naming colors:

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/06/the-crayola-fication-of-the-world-how-we-gave-colors-names-and-it-messed-with-our-brains-part-i/ http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/06/the-crayola-fication-of-the-world-how-we-gave-colors-names-and-it-messed-with-our-brains-part-ii/

How well calibrated is your monitor? My wife recently had a "That's not what I wanted!" experience after discovering that the brightness levels which are optimal for watching movies are not optimal for designing artwork which looks the same after printing. Unless you've done some careful tweaking you might not be learning the colors you think you're learning.

For sound generation, what operating system are you using? Alsa (at least on Ubuntu 13.10) comes with "speaker-test", a command line program which can be used to play specified frequency sine waves, and alsa itself can be configured to allow you to save sound output to files.

..And that's pretty much the story of how at work we ended up with a hideous orange conference table instead of the nice warm brown our department chair envisioned

Does anyone know of a good tool that can automatically produce sound files with a specific pitch for pitch training? At best a tool that can be used via the command line.

Sounds like you want sox. To make an mp3 that plays an A 440 for 1 second you would do:

sox -n a440.mp3 synth 1 sin 440

But note that most real world sounds are a combination of many frequencies, so training on sine waves may not be what you want.

From time to time I hear about people going to their physician when they realise something is off about their body accidentally when someone mentions something that makes them realise they are unusual in some respect. I am then often surprised that these people report the physician saying something along the lines of the phenomenon being well documented and benign.

Personally, I have a couple of tones in my ears for the first two decades of my life without realising that tinnitus is unusual and I do not know what absolute silence is. Ironically, I also have exceptionally great sensitivity to quiet sounds. And, again ironically, I have trouble understanding human speech when there is background noise.

I was surprised when I first moved in with roommates to see how one of them and some of the neighbours were just absolutely noisy. After some inquiry I realised that they are just not as bothered by noise as I am. Oh and apparently they are unable to hear as sensitively as I do.

Further, I hate background music above a certain, quite low, threshhold if I want to maintain a conversation. Other people's conversations are similarly challenging. These facts do explain quite nicely why so many people like clubs, bars or pubs but I do not.

There are plenty of these little things and it maddens me every time I see psychological studies or policy assuming homogenity in the human population. We are different in so many often quantifiable ways. I am not sure yet of the practical use of these little facts but I am sure there is.

Now that I have read all the comments on the linked blog post I have some thoughts to share that I want to have judged seperately.

From user "seez"

Some people can differentiate between orders of magnitude more colors than other people. You can test yourself here: http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/how-well-do-you-see-color-173018

I once had a long argument with a group of friends about why vision was more interesting than sound. Turns out all the ones who sided with vision could differentiate between far more colors.

This seems like it would be easy to test. What is the relevant literature to design a suitable experiment for this?

You can also test if you’re tonedeaf: http://jakemandell.com/tonedeaf/

Similar to the other case, I would like to test for a correlation between enjoyment of music and this. I am not sure what the practical use of this data is but I am interested in it anyway.

From user "St. Rev"

I can’t smell jasmine. I didn’t discover this until I was in my thirties and someone handed me a twig of jasmine flowers. My sense of smell is otherwise better than normal.

From user "Alicorn"

I’m a little bit faceblind (but not as bad as some people, like Leah).

From user "lmm"

This makes me wonder whether there are people who actually get emotionally affected by art, in the same way as I do with music. I enjoy art on an intellectual level, but I’ve never looked at a painting and had it make me feel sad or transcendent or any of the reactions people tend to talk about.

Reading these I wonder about how these discrepancies arise. Are they usually genetic in nature as in that some genetic factor determines certain neurological structures or are they the result of some environmental factor too? The jasmin example sounds more like a defective connection between the brain and receptors in the nose. Then again, only some part of the population is able to smell some metabolic product of asparagus in urine and we know this is a single gene mutation. The faceblind example sounds like some environmental factor being absent such as plenty of faces. The art experience thing I don't know.

Do high IQ people have more of these unusual structures? In my experience more intelligent people report such strange stuff more often and/or are able to empathise with me more. Then again, it could be that intelligent people in general are just more aware of these things and such more considerate.

Anyway I am very happy to see that other people have plenty of these little stuffs and I am not alone in this. I am very happy to be able to participate in this community.

In my experience more intelligent people report such strange stuff more often and/or are able to empathize with me more.

Perhaps high IQ people are better at describing them?

Jasmine, especially the bulbs have a strange, sickly unpleasant smell for me (similar to some of the smells in old toilet rooms, maybe - not the urine part, more like a mushy, fungus smell). I could never find any mention of other people having the same perception.

Both my eyes may from time to time perceive colors in a different way. When they do, one would see everything in more greenish-blue hues, the other in more red-yellowish hues. It's often the case when I closed one eye for a moment, or when that eye was on the pillow side after resting. So I assume it's either temperature-related, or simply that one of my eyes' cone cells were too exposed to, say, red, because of red light filtering through my closed eyelid, and therefore were less sensitive to it afterwards.

(I scored 3 on http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/how-well-do-you-see-color-173018)

I have observed different color temperatures in my left or right eyes some times and observed that these can be changed after wearing red/blue glasses; by swapping which lens covered which eye, I could correct them both back to a more balanced condition.

The presence of an object (or even my own finger) near the center of my forehead causes a tingling sensation, which can even shift directions (but still, always centered on my forehead) as the object moves.

I suspect I'm a supertaster. I'm extremely sensitive to bitter flavors, to the point where I can't eat olives or drink beer or coffee. It's torture for me. My father always complained that I put too much sugar into the coffee I made for him, but whenever I tested it I couldn't imagine how anyone was able to stand it without at least four spoonfuls. Every single person I know will swear to me that bell peppers are sweet, but in my mouth they taste a murderous bitter. Celery is out of the question for the same reason.

It is, yes. Doesn't seem to be the whole story, though -- according to my 23andMe data I have two dominant alleles at that site, but I don't find bitter flavors particularly aversive.

I think that I lack a precise sense of relative pitch over time - as in I can only easily compare tones that are simultaneous or directly one after the other. Give me three tones where pitch first, say, raises and then lowers again, unless they are either identical or a good octave apart I have a hard time telling if the first or third is higher in pitch.

There is a word for the opposite of that (perfect relative pitch), so you're probably in the majority here.

Not so sure about that... here, example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvEwOfL21Uo

I can't tell if the first or third chime is higher pitched. I can tell it goes up and down but even separated by two seconds I can't leap over the middle one. At least compared to several of my friends from college onwards, this seems unusual.

If you can, try testing your ability to determine whether the chimes are being played in the normal order or backwards.

I think I have qualia associated with small numbers.

The closest analogy I can think of is "butterflies in your stomach, but with a pitch". I say pitch not because it's auditory (it's not), but because it seems to be the same feeling but higher or lower for different numbers (not in intensity, but in ... pitch).

These experiences sound like synesthesia, in case anyone's unfamiliar with the concept and wants further reading.

I associate genders with digits, based on their shapes. 1, 4, 5, and 7 are distinctly male. 0, 2, 6, 8, and 9 are distinctly female.

Is it possible that this has something to do with how rounded the shapes are? I noticed that the ratio of cusps to rounded edges (a circle counting for two) is 1:0, 2:0, 3:1, 2:0 for the male digits and 0:2, 1:1, 0:3, 0:4, 0:3 for the female digits. Though obviously this can change with typeface it often remains more or less true.

Yes, I think that's where the association comes from.

Thank you.

People with number form synesthesia sometimes have the first twelve digits in the form of of a clock face, I was wondering if something similar was going on with male bodies usually being relatively angular in comparison to female bodies.

I doubt it. For me, 1, 3, 8, and 9, are all male, whereas 0, 2, 4, 5, 6, and 7 are all female.

I have a friend who was surprised to discover the concept of a "lucid dream". It turns out all of his dreams are lucid and he assumed it's the same for all people.

A psychological experience I have (albeit very rarely). I suddenly realize that I am really me. In comparison, all the rest of life feels like watching a movie in which I am just one of the characters. Sorry if it came out confusing, it's a bit hard to explain! With age the occurrence seem to have become even rarer (I don't remember when I had the last one but it might have been over 10 years ago).

When I am in familiar surroundings, I feel like I can very easily go to the next room or out of the building at all, and it's a bit like I have already gone there. I don't mean any kind of 'out of body experience', just that there's some fuzziness in my mind about where exactly I am. In contrast, when I got stuck in an airport halfway across North America, with some uncertainty as to whether I would reach my destination the next day or the day after that, I felt very clearly that I was exactly bound by my body. The world began, sharply, just outside my eyes. Has anybody felt the same?

Ability to distinguish taste varies quite a bit, with some people only really tasting strong flavors.

I can distinguish patterns in higher tones in music better than low tones. All drum and bass music sounds indistinguishable to me.

Vocal patterns have a bigger influence on interpersonal communication than generally assumed. Interruption vs waiting, deeper vs higher tone voices, pace, non-word vocalization, physical expressiveness (hands, face, body) etc. Some people find certain patterns attractive/aversive and this influences how seriously you take the speaker.

I have two such perceptions which may or may not be related.

Since I am very young every now and then I have had an temporary alternation of vision. Suddenly everything looks much farther away than it is and as if I'm looking through a tunnel with dark and/or blurry sides. When I was young, maybe 12 years old and told my parents this the thought I were tired. But I wasn't. It happens during the day. It is distracting but it goes away after closing the eyes for some time and resting. Or whatever. Doesn't stay longer than an hour.

The other thing is a hightend perception of touch (and possibly other senses) which starts during drowsiness before sleep sets in. I can feel every ripple on the bed towel. I feel every unevenness on the bed post. I am aware or every smallest crumble in the bed. It is interesting and of course I get more awake but then it goes away after some time.

The last time it happend I tried to determine whether the perceptions is really more precise or whether I just feel it as more intense (like contrast enhancing a picture doesn't show more details). It was inconclusive (as I didn't have suitable material to test and when I get up the effect faded). I still think that at least I was aware of more details but could have felt them with proper training even without this state.

When I say every now and then I mean a few times a year and the last time was longer than a year ago. It declined with age.

I understand that comparable effects are not unusual for migraine which I also have sometimes, but these do not seem to correlate for me. I once looked up the effect but can no longer find the link. Sorry.

I knew that these effects where somewhat special but I didn't assume that everybody has them nor that nobody else has them.